Ogre_Wars_-_Beginner's_Guide

<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> In combat, </span></strong><strong>there is a random factor that can change the odds.</strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Although combat casualties are a function of both combat odds and the troop strength of the enemy, the troop strength of the enemy matters most.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. The odds are the winner's rating to the defender's rating,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer</strong>. So if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1.<br /><br />For 1-1 odds, the winner loses 9% of the loser's troop strength and the loser loses 11% of the winner's troop strength.<br /><br />Here is a table:</span></span></p>
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<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>8%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>2%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>0%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">(5)<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Coordinate attacks.</strong><br /><br />The other keystone (the first one is maximizing positional advantage or minimizing positional disadvantage) to my tactics is engaging a single defender with two or more attackers.<br /><br />Suppose you have two attackers that can achieve losing 1-2 odds on a single defender and all three start with 1000 troops.<br /><br />Call the two attackers A and B and the defender is X.<br /><br />A attacks X at 1-2 losing odds. A loses 12% of 1000 and X loses 8% of 1000.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 880 troops, B has 1000 troops and X has 920 troops.<br /><br />Now B attacks X at 1-2 odds. B loses 12% of 920 and X loses 8% of 1000.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 880 troops, B has 890 troops and X has 840 troops.<br /><br />Now B attacks X at 1-2 odds. B loses 12% of 840 and X loses 8% of 890.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 880 troops, B has 790 troops and X has 769 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 769 and X loses 8% of 880.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 788 troops, B has 790 troops and X has 699 troops.<br /><br />Now B attacks X at 1-2 odds. B loses 12% of 699 and X loses 8% of 790.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 788 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 636 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 636 and X loses 8% of 788.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 712 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 573 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 573 and X loses 8% of 712.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 644 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 517. Note that B can no longer attack X as X has less than 75% of B's troop strength.<br /><br />So A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 517 and X loses 8% of 644.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 582 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 466 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 466 and X loses 8% of 582.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 527 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 420 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 420 and X loses 8% of 527.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 477 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 378 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 378 and X loses 8% of 477.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 432 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 340 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 340 and X loses 8% of 432.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 392 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 306 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 306 and X loses 8% of 392.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 356 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 275 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 275 and X loses 8% of 356.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 323 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 247 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 247 and X loses 8% of 323.<br /><br />After the attack, A has 294 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 222 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 247 and X loses 8% of 294.<br /><br />After the attack A has 265 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 199 troops.<br /><br />Now A attacks X at 1-2 odds. A loses 12% of 199 and X loses 8% of 265.<br /><br />After the attack A has 242 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 178. Note that A can no longer attack X!<br /><br />Now suppose X attacks A at 2-1 odds. A loses 12% of 178 or 21 troops (8.6% of A's troop strength) and X loses 8% of 242 or 19 troops (10.6% of X's troop strength).<br /><br />After this hypothetical counterattack, A has 221 troops, B has 707 troops and X has 159 troops.<br /><br />If X counterattacked again at 2-1 odds, A would lose 12% of 159 or 19 troops (8.6%) and X would lose 8% of 221 or 17 troops (10.6%).<br /><br />After this hypothetical counterattack, A would have 202 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 142 troops.<br /><br />Another hypothetical counterattack: A would lose 12% of 142 troops or 17 troops and X would lose 8% of 202 troops or 16 troops. A would have 185 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 126 troops.<br /><br />Another hypothetical counterattack (X is really angry and keeps hitting the attack key): A would lose 12% of 126 troops or 15 troops and X would lose 8% of 185 troops or 14 troops. A would have 170 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 112 troops.<br /><br />Again (X is very angry): A would lose 12% of 112 troops or 13 troops and X would lose 8% of 170 troops or 13 troops.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Now X is losing as many troops as A!</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>A would have 157 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 99 troops.<br /><br />Again: A would lose 12% of 99 or 11 troops and X would lose 8% of 157 or 12 troops.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>X has lost more troops than A!</strong>. A would have 146 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 87 troops.<br /><br />Again: A would lose 12% of 87 or 10 troops and X would lose 8% of 146 or 11 troops. A would have 136 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 76 troops.<br /><br />Again: A would lose 12% of 76 troops or 9 troops and X would lose 8% of 136 or 10 troops. A would have 127 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 66 troops.<br /><br />Again: A would lose 12% of 66 troops or 7 troops and X would lose 8% of 127 or 10 troops. A would have 120 troops, B would have 707 troops and X would have 56 troops.<br /><br />At this point, we need to consider the minimum troop rule. A further attack would take X below 50 troops. On the next cycle, X would be restored to 50 troops. X could continue attacking A and bring A down to the minimum troop level.<br /><br /><strong>What is the point of this?</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>All three players started at 1000. A has lost 880 troops, B has lost 293 troops and X has lost 944 troops, so A and B's nation has lost more troops.<br /><br />The point is that after X has grown tired of counterattacking A, A recruits back to B's level and X chases after A (staying below 75% of A). While A and X are recruiting, B is converting turns to gold and buying more offense or more defense. Once A has met up with B, X now has to stay 75% below B and A can build more offense and defense.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br /><br />If X is not a Gold Beast, X can only convert turns to gold at 75% of the rate at which A and B does and eventually, A and B can increase their offense to the point where they could make losing 1-1 attacks and then maybe winning 1-1 attacks. (Even if X is a Gold Beast with the +25% income bonus, X could convert turns to gold at only 93.75% of the rate A and B.)<br /><br />The key lesson:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>It is possible for two weaker players to take down a single stronger player if they work together and they are patient.</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>I deliberately used the two players who could only muster 1-2 losing attacks to make the point and to also bring up the concept of the minimum troop level.</span></span></p>

 

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<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> In combat, </span></strong><strong>there is a random factor that can change the odds.</strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Although combat casualties are a function of both combat odds and the troop strength of the enemy, the troop strength of the enemy matters most.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. The odds are the winner's rating to the defender's rating,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer</strong>. So if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1.<br /><br />For 1-1 odds, the winner loses 9% of the loser's troop strength and the loser loses 11% of the winner's troop strength.<br /><br />Here is a table:</span></span></p>
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<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Odds</strong><br /></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>2-1</td>
<td>8%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>8-1</td>
<td>2%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>9-1</td>
<td>1%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>10-1 and above</td>
<td>0%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.</p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.</span></span></p>

 

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<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> In combat, </span></strong><strong>there is a random factor that can change the odds.</strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Although combat casualties are a function of both combat odds and the troop strength of the enemy, the troop strength of the enemy matters most.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. The odds are the winner's rating to the defender's rating,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer</strong>. So if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1.<br /><br />For 1-1 odds, the winner loses 9% of the loser's troop strength and the loser loses 11% of the winner's troop strength.<br /><br />Here is a table:</span></span></p>
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<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>8%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>2%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>0%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.</p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><em>This guide is continued in <a href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars_-_Beginner%27s_Guide,_Part_2">Part 2...</a></em><br /></span></span></p>

 

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<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> In combat, </span></strong><strong>there is a random factor that can change the odds.</strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Although combat casualties are a function of both combat odds and the troop strength of the enemy, the troop strength of the enemy matters most.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. The odds are the winner's rating to the defender's rating,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer</strong>. So if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1.<br /><br />For 1-1 odds, the winner loses 9% of the loser's troop strength and the loser loses 11% of the winner's troop strength.<br /><br />Here is a table:</span></span></p>
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<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Odds</strong><br /></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>2-1</td>
<td>8%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>8-1</td>
<td>2%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>9-1</td>
<td>1%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>10-1 and above</td>
<td>0%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.</p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><em>This guide is continued in <a rel="nofollow" href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars_-_Beginner%27s_Guide,_Part_2">Part 2...</a></em><br /></span></span></p>

 

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<p><span style="font-size: small;"><a rel="nofollow" href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars">Back to Ogre Wars</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> In combat, </span></strong><strong>there is a random factor that can change the odds.</strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Although combat casualties are a function of both combat odds and the troop strength of the enemy, the troop strength of the enemy matters most.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. Then to get the odds, you divide the winner's rating by the loser's rating (so 1000 divided by 500 is 2)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer </strong>(so if you divide the two and get something like 4.6446, then it's rounded down to 4). And then stick the <strong>-1</strong> or <strong>to 1</strong> on the end. Putting this together, if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1 or 1 to 1.<br /><br />Here is a table that calculates the losses from possible odds:</span></span></p>
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<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Odds</strong><br /></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>2-1</td>
<td>8%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>8-1</td>
<td>2%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>9-1</td>
<td>1%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>0%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.</p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.</span></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><em>This guide is continued in <a rel="nofollow" href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars_-_Beginner%27s_Guide,_Part_2">Part 2...</a></em><br /></span></span></p>

 

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<p><span style="font-size: small;"><a rel="nofollow" href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars">Back to Ogre Wars</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>A Beginner's Guide to Ogre Wars</strong></span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Originally written by <a href="members/vyeh.html">vyeh</a>, adapted by <a href="members/awesomedrako.html">awesomedrako</a></span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ogre Wars is very simple to play and has few gameplay mechanics. However, the strategies that you can use are many, and new players could find themselves quickly slaughtered by experienced players if they don't know what to do. Here are ten pieces of advice that you should pay attention to, especially if you are new. If you are experienced, these still apply to you if you didn't know them already, though they can be adapted for your own strategies.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1. </strong><strong>Be sure to put your gold away (and defence is good).</strong></span><br /><br />If you put your gold into defense, you protect yourself from having the gold taken away in two ways:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Having an increased defense decreases your chance of losing (and losing gold).</strong></span></span></li>
<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>There will be less gold in your treasury for any potential attackers to take.</strong></span></span></li>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">You should put at least half of the gold into defense and some players would urge you to put all of the gold into defense.</span></span></p>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="random factor"></a>2.<span>&nbsp;Who wins a fight is decided by the attack and defence of the combatants, and a random factor.</span></strong></span><br /><br />The winner of combat is determined by comparing the offense of the attacker to the defense of the defender. However, the offense of the attacker is<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span>&nbsp;</span>the offense rating shown in the village overview screen and the defense of the defender is<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>not</strong><span>&nbsp;</span>the defense rating in the village overview screen.<br /><br />The offense and defense used in combat can vary by as much as 50% from the offense and defense rating shown in the village overview screen. So if both the attacker and defender have ratings (offense in the case of the attacker and defense in the case of the defender) of 1000, the offense and defense in combat can range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />In the extremes, these two scenarios could both happen:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 1500 and the defender could get a defense of 500 (for odds of 3-1).</span></span></li>
<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker could get an offense of 500 and the defender could get a defense of 1500 (for odds of 1-3).</span></span></li>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Though the extreme cases above are highly unlikely (the probability of each case is 0.01%), this is the breakdown of the probability of the other four outcomes:<br /></span></span></p>
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<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 2-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 500) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker wins by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker wins) - can happen 7/16ths of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-1 odds (for example, an offence of 1000 to a defence of 1000, but attacker loses) - can happen 7/16th of the time</span></span></li>
<li><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The attacker loses by 1-2 odds (for example, an offence of 500 to a defence of 1000) - can happen 1/16th of the time</span></span></li>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Although there is not much difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 in terms of the gold taken (the winning attacker takes gold equal to his surviving troop strength<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>up to the amount of gold the loser has</strong>; the losing attacker takes no gold; the defender never takes gold), there is a difference between winning by 3-1 or 2-1 or 1-1 (or losing by 1-3 or 1-2 or 1-1) in terms of the casualties suffered (<a href="#combat casualties">see below</a>). Note that the casualties suffered by a winning attacker does affect the surviving troop strength, which determines the limit on the amount of gold taken.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><a name="combat casualties"></a>3. Casualties of combat is dictated by who won the fight, but more importantly, the troop numbers of the two sides.</strong></span><br /><br />This is one of the two key elements to this guide's strategy (the other is to engage a single defender with two or more attackers).<br /><br />Your combat casualties are equal to the product of <strong>firstly, a factor based on the combat odds</strong>, and <strong>secondly, the enemy's troop strength</strong>.<br /><br />Let's look at the formula for calculating the casualties from a battle:<br /><br /><span style="font-size: medium;"><strong>Combat casualties = (odds factor) x (enemy's troop strength)</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">The odds factor is determined like this: </span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Take the offense of the attacker and the defense of the defender (<strong>after the <a href="#random factor">random factor</a> has been applied to both</strong>). The higher number is the winner. Call that the winner's rating. Call the other the loser's rating. For example, if the attacker has managed to get 1000 for an offence rating during a battle, and the defender got 500, then the winner would be the attacker, and the loser the defender. The winner rating would therefore be 1000 and loser rating would be 500. Then to get the odds, you divide the winner's rating by the loser's rating (so 1000 divided by 500 is 2)<span> </span><strong>rounded down to nearest integer </strong>(so if you divide the two and get something like 4.6446, then it's rounded down to 4). And then stick the <strong>-1</strong> or <strong>to 1</strong> on the end. Putting this together, if the winner has 1250 and the loser has 900, the odds are 1-1 or 1 to 1.<br /><br />Here is a table that calculates the losses from possible odds:</span></span></p>
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<td><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Odds</strong><br /></span></span></td>
<td><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><strong>Winner's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
<td><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <strong>Loser's loss</strong><br /></span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>1-1</td>
<td>9% of loser's troop strength</td>
<td>11% of winner's troop strength</td>
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<td>2-1</td>
<td>8%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>12%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></td>
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<td>3-1</td>
<td>7%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>13%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>4-1</td>
<td>6%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>14%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>5-1</td>
<td>5%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>15%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>6-1</td>
<td>4%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>16%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>7-1</td>
<td>3%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>17%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>8-1</td>
<td>2%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>18%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>9-1</td>
<td>1%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>19%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<td>10-1 and above</td>
<td>0%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of loser's troop strength</span></span></td>
<td>20%<span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> of winner's troop strength</span></span></span></span></td>
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<p><br />Note that if you go from losing at 1-1 to winning at 1-1, your losses go from 11% of the enemy to 9% of the enemy, which is an 18% change. If your opponent goes from being 10% larger than you to being 10% smaller than you, your losses are reduced by 20%.<br /><br />Unless you can achieve 10-1 odds, you should be careful about attacking an enemy with greater troop strength than you. E.g. suppose you can get 2-1 odds against someone double your size.<br /><br />You would lose 8% of the enemy's troop strength and the enemy would lose 12% of your troop strength.<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>Because he is double your size, the enemy would lose only 6% of his troop strength</strong>, which means you end up losing more troops<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>even though you won at 2-1</strong>.<br /><br />On the other hand,<span>&nbsp;</span><strong>you can lose at 1-1 odds but still lose less troops than the enemy if the enemy is at 75% of your troop strength</strong>. You end up losing 8.25% of your troop strength and the enemy ends up losing 9% of your troop strength.<br /><br />This leads to the tactic of growing to the point where the enemy is at (or just over) 75% of your troop strength and then attacking (because there is an attack cap that prevents you from attacking someone under 75% of your troop strength). If you can get to this position and can achieve losing 1-1 or 1-2 odds, you can dominate a stronger enemy and prevent him from getting above you in troop count.</p>
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<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4. Exchange information in your private forums.</strong></span><br /><br />Whenever you attack or are attacked, you gain information about the enemy in the battle reports (either under your offense history or your defense history or on the enemy's village page).<br /><br />The offense or defense of the enemy will vary by up to 50% from the true value.<br /><br />If the "real" value is 1000, the reported value could range from 500 to 1500.<br /><br />If the reported value is 1000, the real value could range from 667 to 2000, which means that the reported value in a subsequent attack could range from 334 to 4000. This range can be narrowed if there are multiple battle reports in a short time.<br /><br />This information could help another village in your nation. At low troop levels, spies are very expensive. Exchanging battle reports is a good way to figure out what the enemy has.<br /><br />You can also exchange information about the propensities of particular players.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva,lucida,'lucida grande',arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><em>This guide is continued in <a rel="nofollow" href="wiki.php?page=Ogre_Wars_-_Beginner%27s_Guide,_Part_2">Part 2...</a></em><br /></span></span></p>